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Kevin Yu Chen Hou's avatar

Nice read… Isn’t the advent of computational psychiatry exciting?

We recently had a lecture on delusions in which my friends and I discussed: What is the line with conspiracy theories?

One could certainly argue a level of aberrant salience network and affective processing; but except in this scenario, reinforced by a social and group dynamic. Heck, arguably certain groups actively seek to encourage this level of salience attribution.

Of course, the line itself is social functioning. If you are ostracised for your delusions, this is bad. If it helps you in a social group, it is good. But it’s interesting to think what happens to the social status quo if we had neurobiological markers of these paradigms. Still feels a ways away.

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1) I'm sure that this is covered somewhere I missed or obvious but how is a delusion conceptually distinguished from a strong, hard to shift and OBVIOUSLY FALSE belief that's socially shared and not indicative of pathology (belief in deities, spirits and similar come to mind, as well as strongly held superstitions). Intuitively, there is a difference (and I'm not mocking) but I cannot put my finger on it however I squint apart from "belief in a god having spoken to the authors of a holy book seems non pathological in a way the belief in a god speaking to me through a podcast does not".

2) While I agree that "we all see non-existent patterns in noise, but some more than others" but I feel -- tho this is a free floating hypothesis rather than a hill I'm prepared to die on -- that developing a delusion requires more than just seeing patterns everywhere. It also, obviously, requires giving them credibility, taking them as valid, and persuasively, convincingly true? Both openness to weird hypothetical AND inability to reject them / entertain them as one of many alternatives? I know a lot of people prone to fantastic conjecture and able to entertain numerous conspiracy ideas for example, a mixture of schizoid, open to experience/bored and artsy, but not as "sticky" delusions. They take them on and discard fairly easily.

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